Legislature(2021 - 2022)GRUENBERG 120

04/09/2021 08:00 AM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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08:05:33 AM Start
08:06:38 AM HB61
08:22:24 AM HB90
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10:02:43 AM Occupational Safety & Health Review Board
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*+ HB 61 REGISTER COMMERCIAL INTERIOR DESIGNERS TELECONFERENCED
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          HB 61-REGISTER COMMERCIAL INTERIOR DESIGNERS                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:06:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ announced  that the  first order  of business                                                               
would  be HOUSE  BILL  NO.  61, "An  Act  relating to  commercial                                                               
interior designers  and commercial interior  design; establishing                                                               
registration  and   other  requirements   for  the   practice  of                                                               
professional commercial  interior design;  relating to  the State                                                               
Board  of  Registration  for   Architects,  Engineers,  and  Land                                                               
Surveyors; relating  to liens for  labor or  materials furnished;                                                               
relating  to  the  procurement   of  commercial  interior  design                                                               
services; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:07:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MATT  CLAMAN, Alaska  State Legislature,  as prime                                                               
sponsor,  introduced HB  61.   He said  the proposed  legislation                                                               
would change the professional licensing  statute to recognize the                                                               
expertise of  certified professional interior designers  who have                                                               
passed  the National  Council  of  Interior Design  Qualification                                                               
(NCIDQ), a three-part, 11-hour exam  created to identify interior                                                               
design  professionals   who  have   the  skills   and  experience                                                               
necessary  to take  on additional  responsibility.   He said  the                                                               
test  is  designed to  assess  the  competency of  candidates  to                                                               
protect the public  through design elements such  as fire safety,                                                               
Americans  with  Disabilities  Act   of  1990  (ADA)  compliance,                                                               
emergency egress,  and material  flammability.   He said  that in                                                               
order  to be  eligible to  take the  NCIDQ exam  one must  have a                                                               
degree from an accredited institution  along with a minimum of 60                                                               
credit  hours of  postsecondary interior  design coursework.   He                                                               
noted  that  there  are  no  state licenses  in  Alaska  for  the                                                               
profession of  interior design,  and one  consequence of  that is                                                               
the  absence  of  access  to   a  construction  stamp  permitting                                                               
interior  designers to  submit their  work  for permitting;  this                                                               
would  be  changed under  HB  61.    The practice  of  commercial                                                               
interior   design  described   in  the   text  of   the  proposed                                                               
legislation  is   specific  and  limited  to   nonstructural,  or                                                               
nonloadbearing, interior  design elements; interior  planning for                                                               
occupant loads  and exiting; and specification  of code-compliant                                                               
interior  finishes,  furnishings, and  fixtures.    The scope  of                                                               
commercial interior design practice described  in HB 61, he said,                                                               
is  well  within  the  competencies   of  interior  designers  as                                                               
determined by education, training, and examination.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CLAMAN  said HB 61  would bring  economic benefits                                                               
by  increasing professional  employment opportunities,  providing                                                               
incentive  to hire  Alaskans  for  professional interior  design,                                                               
attracting high-quality  design talent to the  state, encouraging                                                               
small  business and  unrestrained trade,  and expanding  consumer                                                               
choices for qualified design professionals.   He noted that HB 61                                                               
would  not change  the  requirements or  daily  practice for  any                                                               
other   professional   in   design  or   construction   including                                                               
architects, engineers, contractors,  tradespeople, decorators, or                                                               
residential  designers.   Intended  to  be  cost neutral  to  the                                                               
state,  Representative Claman  explained,  HB 61  would be  self-                                                               
funded  through  the  Alaska  State  Board  of  Registration  for                                                               
Architects,  Engineers, and  Land Surveyors  through application,                                                               
registration, and renewal fees.   As shown in the attached fiscal                                                               
note, he said, passage of HB 61  would allow the board to hire an                                                               
additional  occupational license  examiner, and  the annual  cost                                                               
per licensee would be an additional $30.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:11:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ noted 46 sections  in the proposed legislation                                                               
and told Mr. Bosworth he could summarize the sectional analysis.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:11:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOEY BOSWORTH, Staff, Representative  Matt Claman, summarized the                                                               
sectional  analysis.    He  said  that  Sections  1-4  relate  to                                                               
establishing the new terms in  the AELS Licensing Board.  Section                                                               
5  would  add two  seats  to  the  board,  one for  a  commercial                                                               
interior designer  and an  additional engineering  seat, creating                                                               
separate seats  for electrical and mechanical  engineering, which                                                               
currently share  a seat.   He said  Sections 6-9  would establish                                                               
commercial  interior design  as  a certification  tracked by  the                                                               
State of Alaska.   Sections 8-14 would  establish the examination                                                               
requirements for registration as  a commercial interior designer.                                                               
Section 15,  he said, would establish  commercial interior design                                                               
as a  seal to  be affixed to  construction plans;  Sections 16-22                                                               
would  establish   commercial  interior  design   terminology  in                                                               
relation to  the registration of corporations,  limited liability                                                               
partnerships, and limited liability  companies.  He said Sections                                                               
23-28 would  protect the term  "commercial interior  design" from                                                               
use  by those  not registered,  and  Section 29  would relate  to                                                               
exemptions.    Sections  30-32 would  establish  definitions  for                                                               
terms used  in the  statute, and  Sections 33-42  would establish                                                               
"commercial interior design" as a  term in legal context relating                                                               
to  statute.    He  said   Sections  43-46  would  establish  the                                                               
effective date and grace period for registration.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:14:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KAUFMAN noted that  interior designers' work would                                                               
include certain elements previously done  only by architects.  He                                                               
asked whether the same liability requirements would apply.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:15:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOSWORTH deferred to Ms. Nunn.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:15:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DANA   NUNN,   Interior   Design  Director,   Bettisworth   North                                                               
Architects and  Planners, informed  the committee  that she  is a                                                               
National  Council  for   Interior  Design  Qualification  (NCIDQ)                                                               
certified interior designer.  She  said she works in environments                                                               
impacting  the  public  including daycares,  schools,  hospitals,                                                               
senior  living  centers,  museums,  performing  arts  facilities,                                                               
courthouses,  churches, hotels,  and  athletic  facilities.   She                                                               
described  her  work  as  providing  standalone  interior  design                                                               
services  as well  as serving  as  a project  manager for  larger                                                               
projects,  coordinating  the  work  of  multiple  disciplines  to                                                               
achieve successful, safe, and code-compliant  projects.  She said                                                               
HB   61  would   provide  another   measure  of   public  safety,                                                               
protection,  and  risk  mitigation in  commercial  buildings  and                                                               
would  expand the  choice  of  qualified professionals,  increase                                                               
professional  employment  opportunities,   attract  high  quality                                                               
talent, and encourage  students who must leave  Alaska to achieve                                                               
their degree to  return to Alaska for career  opportunities.  She                                                               
described  interior designers  as qualified  and ready  to create                                                               
safe,   sustainable,    accessible,   and    efficient   interior                                                               
environments  in compliance  with law  and regulation.   Interior                                                               
designers  in   Alaska,  she  said,  are   already  independently                                                               
practicing  these   activities  in  states  that   recognize  the                                                               
profession.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:17:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ asked  Ms.  Nunn whether  she  would like  to                                                               
address Representative Kaufman's question about liability.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. NUNN replied that under HB  61 interior design would be added                                                               
to the qualifications and requirements already in statute.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:18:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TOM BANKS,  Chief Executive Officer, Council  for Interior Design                                                               
Qualification, testified in support of  HB 61, which he described                                                               
as recognizing  qualified interior designers.   He explained that                                                               
the  Council  for Interior  Design  Qualification  (CIDQ) is  the                                                               
premier   credentialling   organization   for   interior   design                                                               
professionals, developing and  administering the three-part NCIDQ                                                               
exam required  for regulated jurisdictional certification  in the                                                               
United  States  and Canada.    He  said NCIDQ-certified  interior                                                               
designers are required to undergo  formal education and thousands                                                               
of hours of  supervised experience in order to sit  for the exam,                                                               
which  tests   knowledge  of   core  competencies   required  for                                                               
professional practice  including code-based environments  such as                                                               
hospitals, office buildings,  and schools.  He said  the exam has                                                               
frequently   been  cited   and  mischaracterized   by  those   in                                                               
opposition  to HB  61, specifically  citing an  unsupported claim                                                               
that says  two-thirds of the test  may be passed with  a score of                                                               
50  percent,  and  could  include zero  correct  answers  on  the                                                               
subject of  building codes and standards.   He said that  none of                                                               
these  assertions  are  true,  with   building  and  safety  code                                                               
knowledge  assessed  in  multiple  sections  of  the  test.    An                                                               
analysis of each  question on the exam, he  explained, found that                                                               
it would be  impossible to get all questions  pertaining to those                                                               
topics wrong and  still pass the exam.  He  said CIDQ supports HB
61, along  with all other  proposed legislation that  would allow                                                               
certified interior  designers to practice  to the full  extent of                                                               
their  capabilities as  evidenced by  education, experience,  and                                                               
examination.    He  noted  that the  public  benefits  when  that                                                               
happens.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:21:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN  asked  Mr.  Banks  about  the  liability                                                               
obligations for interior designers relative to architects.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BANKS replied  that, as  he was  not an  expert on  the bill                                                               
language, he would defer to the bill sponsor.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOSWORTH  told Representative Kaufman that  he would research                                                               
his question.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ said  that the  committee would  wait for  an                                                               
answer to the liability question before taking formal action.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[HB 61 was held over.]                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 110 Supporting Document - Smoking Rates & Tax Rates by State 4.5.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 110
HB 110 Supporting Document - Cigarette Prices & Cigarette Sales 2019 graph 4.5.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 110
HB 61 v. A 3.16.2021.PDF HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 61
HB 61 Sponsor Statement v. A 3.16.2021.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 61
HB 61 Sectional Analysis v. A 3.16.2021.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 61
HB 61 Additional Document NCIDQ Support.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 61
HB 61 Opposition Testimony - Received as of 3.16.2021.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 61
HB 61 Letters of Support as of 4.7.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 61
HB 61 Fiscal Note, DCCED, 4.2.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 61
HB 90 v. A 2.18.21.PDF HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/12/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 90
HB 90 Sponsor Statement 3.30.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/12/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 90
HB 90 Sectional Analysis 3.30.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/12/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 90
HB 90 Supporting Document - State by State P2P Collecting Map 3.30.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/12/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 90
HB 90 Supporting Document - Anchorage Ordinance PVRN 3.30.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/12/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 90
HB 90 Supporting Document - Revenue Stream Chart 3.30.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/12/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 90
HB 90 Supporting Document - State by State DOR Collection Map 3.30.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/12/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 90
HB 90 Letter of Opposition - Internet Association 4.6.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 90 Fiscal Note - DOR, 4.2.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/12/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 90
HB 90 Fiscal Note - DOA, 4.3.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/12/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 90
HB 90 Sponsor Presentation 3.30.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/12/2021 3:15:00 PM
HB 90
HB 61 Support Testimony - Received as of 4.8.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 61
HB 90 Letter of Opposition, TechNet.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
CSHB 110(L&C).pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 110
HB 110 Support Received as of 4.10.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 110
HB 110 Opposition Received as of 4.10.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 110
HB 110 Opposition - Alex McDonald, 4.10.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 110
HB 110 Opposition - Shaun D'Sylva, 4.10.21.pdf HL&C 4/9/2021 8:00:00 AM
HB 110